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   发表时间:2007-06-11  
小螃蟹 写道

1. how old are you? it seems that you have suffered a lot of struggles in life. you are so eager to be in Utopia.

2. what is your vocation? it seems that you are a machine-world assertor.

3. Do you have someone you love, you trust, you respect?


I was just exaggerated a little bit...

I'm a Pentium III (奔三) programmer.  I have someone I love, I trust, and I respect; I'm living a perfectly normal life.

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I agree with you that many people may have dreams of Utopia but I definitely disagrees machines are honest and obedient while human beings are not.

Human beings are deceiving by nature... there's nothing wrong with that.
When your life is on the line, anything can happen... 
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   发表时间:2007-06-11  
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自我介绍:

张牙舞爪的小姑娘


职业: 供应商管理
爱好: 欺负人
个人主页:


wow, so cool .

maybe you above commented  should read this stuff,we can know this pretty girl a little more ..






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个人体会:会communication的人一般会比不会communication的人学习能力强一倍以上.而且其差距随着复杂程度程指数上升.
(当然上网也算一种communication)

communication其实很需要环境.
很多老程序员整天盯着电脑,只有处理任务时才可能开下口.(更多还是用了email,msn)
会communication的一般可能当了pm,这也体现出了差别,但pm又太忙了.
当然另一点不能乎略的是勇气.
有时候许多沉默份子也不是自己想沉默,只要你主动一下,还有一些是蛮积极的.
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   发表时间:2007-06-11  
I don't know more than 4 ITs?怎么翻译
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   发表时间:2007-06-11  
zhuyi8319 写道
I don't know more than 4 ITs?怎么翻译

我认识的IT总共加起来不超过4个。也就是我对做技术的并不是很了解。所以所有的评论也仅是猜测而已。
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   发表时间:2007-06-11  
小螃蟹 写道
zhuyi8319 写道
I don't know more than 4 ITs?怎么翻译

我认识的IT总共加起来不超过4个。也就是我对做技术的并不是很了解。所以所有的评论也仅是猜测而已。


    8知道美女有米有兴趣认识the fifth
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   发表时间:2007-06-11  
shaucle 写道
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个人体会:会communication的人一般会比不会communication的人学习能力强一倍以上.而且其差距随着复杂程度程指数上升.
(当然上网也算一种communication)


I really appreciate and admire that you could connect communication with learning capability by index. Could you refer me to such kind of articles?

I agree with you internet is a way to communicate and I have described in the first article the ways of communication in modern time. However, I have to clarify my "communication" here is only limited and defined as face-to-face communication.

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communication其实很需要环境.

I think atmosphere should be created actively but not to wait others to set a bridge to communicate.

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很多老程序员整天盯着电脑,只有处理任务时才可能开下口.(更多还是用了email,msn)
会communication的一般可能当了pm,这也体现出了差别,但pm又太忙了.

Management team and common staff are all busy with work. The difference is manager is busy in work planning and assignment while common staff is in execution. According to varied characteristics, people are fond of varied jobs. Communication is not aiming at promotion but in better and smoothier life.

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当然另一点不能乎略的是勇气.
有时候许多沉默份子也不是自己想沉默,只要你主动一下,还有一些是蛮积极的.


I completely agree with you on this point.
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   发表时间:2007-06-11  
冉翔 写道
小螃蟹 写道
zhuyi8319 写道
I don't know more than 4 ITs?怎么翻译

我认识的IT总共加起来不超过4个。也就是我对做技术的并不是很了解。所以所有的评论也仅是猜测而已。


    8知道美女有米有兴趣认识the fifth

  友情UP一下~~~~~
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   发表时间:2007-06-12  
Obviously there's a dizzy crab between lines here. LOL

What you've talked about reminds me of my business communication textbook. Yet points 1-3 are actually about how to approach a person. It is P4 and P5 that are about understanding.

Understanding people is hard if not always. People won't tell their mind easily and often unconsciously omit many important assumptions since they may think you've already known, or even worse when they imply something on purpose. To read one's mind, a quick and easy skill is to rephrase other's words by saying, e.g. "Do you mean..." or "Are you saying..." to make sure you understand them correctly. Be careful this skill can also be offensive or embressing in certain circumstances depending on cultures.  

Hope you be fine soon~

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cookoo 写道
Nice reading indeed. There's an old saying that "Business is all about communication." though a bit of exaggerated.  Also agree with you on understanding. "First to understand then to be understood" is such a rule of thumb.


I am very glad that you agree with me.

Understanding have several steps:

1. Side-way messages: Before you have chances to talk or communicate to an individual, you may have heard of or collected side-way information or anecdotes about him/her. These related have mixed others' opinions and judgement but still could be taken as one of a resource to understand. And most of understaning we reach when we couldn't talk to a person face-to-face is from side-way messages analysis.

For example, we worship heros or celebrities but we may have no chance in our life to meet them, especially the ones who passed away before we come to life,hahah. Our feelings rise from understanding of their brightness of side-way messages.


2. Appearance judgement: for those who we are luck to meet ourselves, we will be prompt to an apperance judgement. Although our parents chattered a lot about not judging from appearance, we still keep on doing. And it should be considered as a very important factor when we try to find some one to talk in an unfamiliar party or crowd. You are easy to accpet this concept- he looks easy-going and considerate, maybe I could have a try to talk to him; he looks conservative and stubborn, I prefered talking to a monkey to chatting with him.

3. First impression: first impression here means the talking first impression. The topic or hobby your target prefers will have a crucial point on your impression. That is the factor to decide whether this will be the last talk you have with him for the rest of your life.

4. Further communication: When you have listened to his words or stories, you should start contribute to the communication. Otherwise, it will become his speech time or talk-show.

5. Full communication: this is the highest level you reach.

What I am talking here is targeting at the one who is timid to talk or actively to set a target to talk.

Next time I will try to explain more for the above 4 points. Please present your opinions and suggestions.

I am in beijing these weekends and just landed on shanghai. I am so unluck to have the worst pilots in the world. I am dizzy now and please forgive my wording or any unfit points.
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   发表时间:2007-06-12  
//I really appreciate and admire that you could connect communication with learning capability by index. Could you refer me to such kind of articles?

that's based on a simple principle, you can always learn things from others.
what's more, when it's getting more complicated, there are often many traps, communication can best avoid this.
there's no way to tell how to communicate, but just feel, and be with them.

//I think atmosphere should be created actively but not to wait others to set a bridge to communicate.
exactly right. but it's not one guy's job, so it's often better to choose than create, unless you are the big brother.


//Management team and common staff are all busy with work. The difference is manager is busy in work planning and assignment while common staff is in execution. According to varied characteristics, people are fond of varied jobs. Communication is not aiming at promotion but in better and smoothier life.

varied jobs need communication even more, otherwise there will be a mess of the project.
Communication is aiming in better and smoothier life, that's a insighted point, and with that it often comes with the promotion of yourself and the whole team.
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