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   发表时间:2006-08-23  
刚才去open-open.com溜达了一圈,为项目寻找轮子。

看着令浪漫木的opensource,少了一点惊喜,多了一点恶心。

我在寻思,为嘛只要用java做点东西,就得弄进来各式各样的jar

不说那些不太流行的,就说主流的,也几乎已经多的让我郁闷的地步。

从项目开始吧,
引入jakarta.commons.*的N多包包。

然后,选种mvc框架,不管是struts/webwork or jsf.
然后,选种持久层框架,hibernate/ibatis or ejb.
然后,甭选了,直接把Spring弄进来。

现在的项目不带spring,不用ioc,你都不好意思跟人打招呼。

然后,还得有各种小组件,譬如关于表格显示,譬如页面渲染。
所以再加上displaytag/extermetable ,sitemesh/tiles之类的东西。

当然,ant or maven不能少
当然,还要记得在.java里面写xdoclet or 5.0的注释。
为的是自动生成点东西,省点力气。

然后现在开始TDD了,出了junit,你还得加入easymock,jmock dbunit之类的东西。不然也写不成test。

当然,随着项目的不同,还可能用上BIRT,Compass,关于portal,soa之类的就暂不提了。但是以后如果火了,还得google继续找opensource。


恩,差不多就这样子吧。每个opensource的API docs + quickguide加起来,估计印成纸得老厚了。关键是API文档也不一定能看明白,quickguide里面的例子照着做也不一定能success。

好不容易费劲人年的每样东西都掌握的差不多的有点的认识了。你还不能确定能把他们粘到一块去,粘的不好的例子比比皆是,如果项目组没有个失败过N多次成长起来的牛人,别指望能粘出来。

粘好了也不一定轻松,开发的项目需要N久时间,期间这些玩意的升级,你到底跟不跟,不跟,好,realse notes or changedlog上描述的N多更新更酷的feature你是别指望用了。跟上去,可能和他的倚赖包又有了变化了,折腾了半天,完事后,你还得重构,还得做好思想准备迎接新的不知名的bug。rcN,mN版本的时候不敢用,等终于release了,也别指望着能轻松了。

那些刚出学校的同学,辛辛苦苦的学习着主流,学到了指不定就成了末流。跟着别人的脚步,说让走哪就走哪。如果自己想走另外一条路吧,先不说路途是否平坦,是否崎岖,光是一句,跟着人有肉吃,自己走的话,看看荷包那瘪瘪的样子,就打消了。

coding co到手抽筋,学习学到脑发麻。

永无止境,永不停歇,永远别指望安宁。

也只好阿Q着安慰自己,拥抱着变化,直到看到Eclipse的小红条变成小绿条的时候,捧着杯咖啡,大喘口气,留住轻松的微笑。然后继续跟代码死磕。

PS:仅仅是牢骚,我个人依然认为目前在企业级应用里面,Java还是最好的方案。但是最好并不等于足够了!
   发表时间:2006-08-23  
那么你是喜欢自己动手写呢,还是喜欢掏钱买?
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   发表时间:2006-08-23  
真难伺候阿。
我早就看出来,冉兄弟就是具有领导的潜质。
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   发表时间:2006-08-23  
冉翔 写道
刚才去open-open.com溜达了一圈,为项目寻找轮子。

看着令浪漫木的opensource,少了一点惊喜,多了一点恶心。

我在寻思,为嘛只要用java做点东西,就得弄进来各式各样的jar

不说那些不太流行的,就说主流的,也几乎已经多的让我郁闷的地步。

从项目开始吧,
引入jakarta.commons.*的N多包包。

然后,选种mvc框架,不管是struts/webwork or jsf.
然后,选种持久层框架,hibernate/ibatis or ejb.
然后,甭选了,直接把Spring弄进来。

现在的项目不带spring,不用ioc,你都不好意思跟人打招呼。

然后,还得有各种小组件,譬如关于表格显示,譬如页面渲染。
所以再加上displaytag/extermetable ,sitemesh/tiles之类的东西。

当然,ant or maven不能少
当然,还要记得在.java里面写xdoclet or 5.0的注释。
为的是自动生成点东西,省点力气。

然后现在开始TDD了,出了junit,你还得加入easymock,jmock dbunit之类的东西。不然也写不成test。

当然,随着项目的不同,还可能用上BIRT,Compass,关于portal,soa之类的就暂不提了。但是以后如果火了,还得google继续找opensource。


恩,差不多就这样子吧。每个opensource的API docs + quickguide加起来,估计印成纸得老厚了。关键是API文档也不一定能看明白,quickguide里面的例子照着做也不一定能success。

(吃完饭待续)


当感觉不满意时,也许是个机会!
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   发表时间:2006-08-23  
gigix 写道
那么你是喜欢自己动手写呢,还是喜欢掏钱买?


喜欢睡觉

不是讨厌opensource这些轮子,而是觉得这些轮子没有形成标准,质量参差不齐。没有个统一或者比较统一的状态。让偶这种小coder不必在挑轮子的时候就看花了眼。
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   发表时间:2006-08-23  
buaawhl 写道
真难伺候阿。
我早就看出来,冉兄弟就是具有领导的潜质。


老大又取消我老。
生意场上不是都说嘛,会抱怨的客户才是好客户。
偶一下子抱怨了这么多,一看就是opensource的忠实粉丝啊。

PS: 悄悄问一句,您是什么时候看出来滴?偶这么努力的低调都被你看出来老。看来偶还真素那一陀钻石呢,怎么遮掩,依然闪闪发光。
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   发表时间:2006-08-23  
这和到大卖场买东西没什么区别。
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   发表时间:2006-08-23  
冉翔 写道
gigix 写道
那么你是喜欢自己动手写呢,还是喜欢掏钱买?


喜欢睡觉

不是讨厌opensource这些轮子,而是觉得这些轮子没有形成标准,质量参差不齐。没有个统一或者比较统一的状态。让偶这种小coder不必在挑轮子的时候就看花了眼。


所谓便宜没好货嘛……你也可以付钱让ThoughtWorks来帮你搞定这些轮子,你自己去睡觉 
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   发表时间:2006-08-23  
http://www.manageability.org/blog/stuff/how-to-evaluate-open-source-library

How to Choose an Open Source Library
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Having a lot of open source to choose from is definitely a good thing. However, the downside is that you have to do some actual work to figure out which is best for your project. So here's are some rules of thumb on how to quickly evaluate and pick an open source library. Specific emphasis on "library" since our intent is to incorporate it into our own work as opposed to simple usage.

   1. Usage - Google's PageRank algortithm ranks web pages based on the quantity and quality of other web pages linking to it. It's similar to the rule of thumb of looking at citations to discern the quality of an academic paper. In similar spirit an open source library's quality can be discerned from the number and quality of other open and closed source projects that use it. For example, the Hibernate project has a ton of projects that not only use it but provide tools to support it.
   2. Extensibility - An essential quality of most popular projects is the presence of a well defined mechanism for extension. Look for this in the library your are evaluating, the lack of this quality can put you in a bind that's extremely difficult to extricate oneself from. For example, Eclipse and JEdit have well defined plugin architectures that make it workable for multiple contributors to enhance the platform without stepping on one another.
   3. Velocity - Is the project improving on a consistent and steady pace? Some well known open source projects (i.e. JDOM) have been progressing at a glacial pace, this observation along should make you turn to a more vibrant project like DOM4J. JDOM is an example of a project that has fallen victim to its premature popularity.
   4. Scafolding - You should seriously be critical of a project if it lacks an easy way to build. The lack of a good build system implies a lack of support for collaborative development. In otherwords, the originators don't find it necessary because its most likely nobody else is collaborating with them.
   5. API Usability Testing - Now it should be obvious that any good software project requires extensive testing. However, the presence of extensive unit tests indicates other qualities. That is, it indicates a discipline of supporting iterative development. Good projects are built in iterative fashion, this implies a need to regression test against previous iterations and this also implies experimentation of the form of APIs. APIs just like user interfaces require an iterative approach to implement well, if you can't see any indication of such an approach being applied to APIs then expect to see APIs that feel like UIs that forgot to do any usability testing.
   6. How To's - Information on the kind of how to use this stuff or even better if its available as unit tests. Ignore "marketecture", that is schpiels about themselves, rather look for evidence like blogs, external articles or third party books that describes actual usage of the library. If someone else has invested the time to write about how they leveraged the tool then it contributes some credibility. In addition, you get yourself up and running faster.
   7. Developed NOT in a Vacuum - The problem with all too many libraries is that they're developed in a vacuum. Look for indicators that the library is developed as part of a much larger project. This indicates that most of the functionality is added because of an actual requirement as opposed to some developer's whim. The last thing we want to use is a library with feature creep.
   8. Attention to Detail - When you see indications of attention to the minutae then you may have struck gold. For example, LOG4J takes great pains fine tuning the time it takes to log events as opposed to simply provifing a logging framework. The design of LOG4J is a consequence of these painstaking efforts and not out of the collective wisdom (i.e. least common denominator) of a commitee.
   9. Sponsorship - Believe it or not but many of the best open source projects come from paid efforts. The good ones usually come out of either from a corporate's internal project, a result of a consulting engagement or from a research group. The better ones come from a continuous and stead stream of sponsorship. Money doesn't buy you quality, however money does buy you continuous and steady development. Remember, boredom can kill even the best projects, however cash is a good distraction from monotony.
  10. Don't forget the Code - What about the code? If you do have the time, then do look at the code, afterall, that's were the rubber meets the road. You can run the code against many of the static code checkers that are available for Java. They'll give you a quick sample of the quality of the underlying code. It's not going to tell you if it's any good, however, it'll at least weed out the ugly.

Remember also to consider suitability. That is are you comfortable with level of standards compliance, the licensing restrictions and availability of support? The best technical solution is not necessarily the best for your needs.

Finally, in no way should the choice to use open source interfere with the success of your projects. The main benefit of open source is options, rather than the traditional "buy vs build?" question, it is now more like "buy vs build vs borrow?"
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   发表时间:2006-08-23  
去做二次开发吧,东西都现成,一般只学一种东西就可以供老板剥削了。
冉翔 写道
刚才去open-open.com溜达了一圈,为项目寻找轮子。
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