可能太宽泛了，如何算熟练掌握一门语言？

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可能太宽泛了，如何算熟练掌握一门语言？30

先说明一下，我不是计算机专业出身，本来对程序设计这一块也就学过点C（你知道，大学基本上工科都得学的），再学了点JAVA，工作近一年，慢慢看了点RUBY什么的，现在主要做rails的开发，老实讲，对这个东西，我觉得除了刚开始觉得写着有点别扭，现在基本上已经适应了这种风格，但随着现在在项目中慢慢看公司一个架构师的代码，越来越觉得能够熟练掌握这门语言，真挺难的，公司这个做了十年开发，前两年转RUBY，我觉得他已经是很牛了，公司项目的好几个插件都是他开发的，（当然他在系统架构上也挺牛逼的），他有些插件很多都用到所谓元编程了，就是meta programing。一个model include某个类之后，可以动态生成很多方法，内部也有很多回调方法啊，什么的，可供我们使用时做部分配置，除出他的架构设计能力这部分不谈，他对语言的驾驭，确实已经可以说是精通了，我想请教下有过多种语言经验的牛人们，给点建议，如何能达到精通或者熟悉一门编程语言？我知道要看源代码，看别人写得好的源代码，再就是多写了，可是以我这半年东看西瞧多种语言的小小经验上来看，只要不是一门变态的语言，要入门，语法是太简单了（python我看了一下午，英文片的dive into python，除了觉得代码形式有点怪异，有空格缩进这种方式来划分代码块之外，没什么不能适应的，ruby,刚开始也是利用下班晚上的时间边看边敲了点那种入门级代码，也就一个星期），就语法本身来说，现在能在那个语言排行榜上排得上号的，都不会对我有太大的障碍，可是任何一门语言，要想完全驾驭，或者熟练驾驭，随着慢慢接触的东西越来越多，反而越来越觉得难了，我想这背后应该还有些东西是我本身没有掌握的，做为非计算机专业出身的我，计算机系统，编译原理，等等这些东西对我来讲都是非常欠缺的，我需要看看这方面的东西吗（仅就从根本上理解一门语言而言）？另外，也看到很多人热捧MIT的那个SICP,函数式编程我也只是了解，就有这种能力的haskell,ruby,scala来讲，这些概念都不难理解（就像所谓OO，理解这个概念有什么用呢，除了面试时用用，做开发时还是不能很好地使用），可是当我看到别人写的那么牛的代码，连续几个方法的调用就如同顺口溜一样，我真的觉得挺不可思议（虽然我知道一般来讲，不会有那种专属于某种语言的可以完成的功能），而且，我发现，貌似现在任何一门语言，比如ruby,比如erlang,prolog,这些语言的实现也都是用C实现的（不要鄙视，真的是几个月前才知道的），那为什么利用这些语言结构（C语言的）就可以实现这么些功能？我基本上只能算听说过图灵机，但如果要再向里面深究，我估计得拿出离散数学等等数学的家伙了。说了这么多，感觉已经有点混乱了，简单点吧，要从根本上能熟练驾驭一门语言，除了代码的读写，还需要在哪些方面做补充？希望有经验的程序员们指点一下，先谢谢了.

问题补充：谢谢，我现在是网撒得比较大，好几门语言只是大略地看了一下，越看越觉得最后可能都要往语言的实现方向上走，但一方面本身对底层就不熟，再者，编译原理那些要看还真得花不少的时间，看源代码是比较好，但可能一不小心又掉到语言如何实现里面去了。当然这可能跟实现开发关系不大，只是有时会想，为什么可以这样实现，真正的原理是什么，最后甚至可能还会想搞明白驱动编程，怎么控制硬件。不过还是谢谢你了，手上也没什么分，大家平分吧。

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问题补充：

wangqj 写道

1.兴趣。强烈的求知欲，使你可以做到无时无刻不在思考，在电梯里，在地铁上，在吃饭时。。。你可以为了解决某个问题一夜不睡，而不觉得困。我相信，你可以完成任何事情。
2.做足基本功。反复看基本的东西，相信你每次理解的都不一样，就像读一首诗，每读一次，你都会被陶醉，过一段时间，你再读的时候，又是另一种境界。
3.充足的时间。你拥有大量的时间来做这些。
4.理解你的媳妇。你媳妇可以理解你爱语言胜过爱她

兴趣当然有，但求知也要有点理论基础，纯语言语法这些不是问题，考虑解决方案现在都不知如何摸到门。
做足基本功确实是这样的。
时间倒还真不够，基本也不可能有大量的时间来供我挥霍在这个上面，下班之余的时间倒是可以。
分了，下一任暂时还没找到。
谢谢了，分的话，就由大家平分了吧。

问题补充：

zhangzhongyuan 写道

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我鄙视你，就是来混分的啊，跟你说，只有三十分，你也就只能分到十分而已

问题补充：

wangqj 写道

1.Runtime.getRuntime().gc();
2.long start = Runtime.getRuntime().freeMemory();
3.Object object=(Object)request.getSession().getAttribute("object");
4.
5.Runtime.getRuntime().gc();
6.long end = Runtime.getRuntime().freeMemory();
7.long difference = ( start - end );
8.System.out.println( difference + " bytes be used!" );

貌似你这是比较关注虚拟机？

问题补充：

coffeesweet 写道

个人感觉假如有人随便给一个问题，你能能用你所学习的语言开发解决就能算你掌握了这门语言，而且即使不能用这门语言解决你也知道为什么它解决不了该问题，这样应该就差不多吧,加油!

随便一个问题，那就比我这个问题还宽泛了。
不过那就不是语言的问题，而是编程能力的问题了。

问题补充：

娴静女生写道

动态语言是趋势，目前个人还是比较偏爱JAVA。。。
从语法上来讲，觉得简洁，明了。

熟练？能从熟悉语法的角度来说么？

不是说动态静态的问题，而是觉得接触得越多，越希望了解程序的本质，了解些原理。

问题补充：

cnetwei 写道

我以为三个阶段，完成后可以说熟练掌握了：

1、该语言的基本语法，这个层面上每个语言都差不太多，尤其是同范式语言；

2、该语言的类库，包括流行的第三方扩展库，在具体层面来看就是该语言对于解决不同问题的方案，例如java中针对桌面应用的Swing，针对Web应用的 servlet/jsp，等等；

3、该语言独有的特性及其高级技术，例如对并发支持、运行时反射、等等。

然而总体来说，每种语言都有自己适用的场景，都有自己的优势和特定，学习时应该从理念、思想等层面上去思考，从而做到触类旁通..

前面两点还比较容易了，感觉面比较狭窄，第三点的话，需要的知识储备要求就比较高了，也不好入手。

问题补充：

bangyan2003 写道

大哥您的问题还没解决呢?我常常见到一类人只是想详细的了解到一些东西很少去动手去做固然理论很重要但是实践出来的东西往往不能用语言去准确的表达妙处在与行动啊....

bangyan2003 写道

你这简直就是在说我嘛，不过对了一半，对很多东西呢，我很多时候纯粹的只是想知道是个怎么回事，并不一定是想要去用的，不过对于语言这玩意，我还是会尽量去多写代码，当然限于我现在工作基本上只用rails，java代码都是大半年前写过，其他的语言的东西都只是浮光掠影的掠一掠而已。
至于问题算不算解决，嗯，怎么说呢，看看大家的回答和头衔，其实我明白，这种问题就是一个对程序语言有兴趣的新手的问题，能算得上高手的，可能曾经经历过，但这种经历不容易说清楚，有时也是只能在工作中慢慢去琢磨，去领悟了，至于低手嘛，哎，我也看到了，大家经历过的东西我也经历过一些了，只是有时进展未免慢了一点，而从现实来讲呢，可能也是的，大家辛辛苦苦写代码，也只是为了赚了点钱，只是我想让写代码的日子更有意思一点而已。
嗯，还是谢谢你了，听你这一说，大概就知道你还是很关注这个问题的嘛，哈哈，有时候到上海，请你吃饭哈

问题补充：

rovanz 写道

所有语言都一样：
1、学习API
2、学习、模仿、创造best practices
3、读language、VM specification

第三条如何开始？

问题补充：

抛出异常的爱写道

熟练掌握一门语言？
一般是指背下常用的API下的20% LANG UTIL
不常用的50% API可以猜出来类名与方法名（可以使用IDE下）IO，JDBC，反射等
特别不好用的，非常不稳定模块知道其实现原理就可以了 NIO 多线程 gc string

其它的能力不是语言能力

久仰大名了，哈哈，谢谢你的回答。

编程综合

2010年5月05日 03:11

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31个答案按时间排序按投票排序

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采纳的答案

2010年5月05日 13:38

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在中国做研发，精通不了，精通也没用。
适用，高效，能赚钱，即可。
还有，你熟练、精通掌握C,还是没有精通银行业务的软件设计师薪水的1/5.
不是有人报料一个很熟习银行各种业务的家伙是34K/月吗

2010年5月18日 11:58

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2010年5月18日 10:30

抛出异常的爱
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我也是想快速熟练的掌握一门语言。望高见。

2010年5月18日 09:17

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我不讲具体学什么内容。就我现在的经验，我感觉学习跟盖高楼一样，试着每天学一点，几年之后绝对有收获。

2010年5月17日 18:52

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楼主是学数学的吧，我有的时候也会特别去想其内部是怎么实现的，甚至看到一个打印机，也会想一下他内部是怎么实现的。
不过有些东西学习之初不用刻意去想他的原理，当你接触的多了，渐渐的就会明朗了。

2010年5月17日 17:36

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最快的掌握方式，那就是参与项目的开发，从小型到中型再到大型，也可以自己写一些小程序，这样才会有自己见解，才能深思一门语言。一起努力把！

2010年5月17日 15:05

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关键还是要多练习

2010年5月17日 12:16

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给你讲过故事吧～～～～听着啊。。

有一个不识字的土财主发誓要让他的儿子学文化,他给儿子请了一位老师,让儿子跟老师好好学习.老师开始教学生怎么写一二三:一字是一横,二字是两横,三字是三横.儿子很聪明,触类旁通了,马上去跟他爸爸说,他已经学会文化了,爸爸很高兴,以为儿子已经学成,马上把老师辞退了.
过了一段时间,那土财主要请一位姓万的人来家吃饭,他让儿子写一张请帖.他等了半天,他的儿子还没写好,于是他就催他儿子了.他儿子回答说:姓什么都行,为什么他偏要姓万?我从早上开始写,到现在才划了5百多划,离一万还差好多呢.

2010年5月17日 10:51

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我觉得精通一门语言了再去涉猎其他语言比较好。这样学习起来也不费劲。

2010年5月17日 09:51

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所有语言都一样：
1、学习API
2、学习、模仿、创造best practices
3、读language、VM specification

2010年5月16日 18:03

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2010年5月14日 18:10

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2010年5月14日 14:03

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这个，我觉得并没有很多捷径吧，现在都为了一口饭而写程序看语法，如果你真有兴趣了，没人教你估计你也成为牛人了。

2010年5月12日 19:18

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就四个字：多看，多练

2010年5月12日 08:33

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能够用这种语言解决绝大多数问题

2010年5月11日 23:48

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sfsdfsdfs

2010年5月11日 18:11

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做开发5年了, 每做一个项目都会进步一块, 写的代码多了自然而然就会产生抽象功能的想法, 发现重复的功能自己就会重构代码, 再在平时多看看设计模式提高一下理论基础肯定会大有进步.

2010年5月10日 18:05

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楼主，你的问题是在认为只要学会了一门语言的语法就等于熟练了一门语言。其实这种想法是不对的，语法只是语言最基本的部分，而真正重要的是这个语言所针对的问题。还有就是掌握如何用这门语言期望的形式去编程而不是用自己以前编程习惯去套这门语言的语法。
就比如你是C程序员，你在接触JAVA后一直用static方法写代码，那么这个肯定是不对的。JAVA希望你用OO方式去写代码。
同样PYTHON也是，在python中列表解析要比普通的for循环快很多。
其他的语言也是一样，你必须站在语言本身的角度去思考问题，这个是需要时间的。

建议你看下这篇文章
《Don’t Just Learn the Language, Understand Its Culture》
选自这本书 97 Things Every Programmer Should Know
往上有PDF的。

2010年5月10日 15:43

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动态语言是趋势，目前个人还是比较偏爱JAVA。。。
从语法上来讲，觉得简洁，明了。

熟练？能从熟悉语法的角度来说么？

2010年5月10日 14:56

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我当时说实话对编程不大感兴趣，但后来发现视频教程可以提高兴趣。。后来看了几套视频后，发现很java很感兴趣了。

2010年5月10日 08:37

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慢慢在实践中摸索吧，这个东西谁也给你了你一个万能钥匙，我以前也很想一下子就掌握了，现在才知道这根本不可能，能使用一门语言或许很容易，只要记性好，但是要熟练就得练习，要擅长就的多实践，要精通就多思考吧，知其然，知其所以然。我个人见解，呵呵。

2010年5月09日 18:18

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在面向对象的世界里，抽象的能力最重要...

2010年5月09日 13:55

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我们做软件的只是将语言作为工具，当你有一天也认为是这样子的话，就如同和你们公司的架构师一样了，随意发挥。

2010年5月07日 12:18

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就java来讲熟练的使用他的库,就是指util,lang ,io,math,sql,swing(swt)等包我是指j2ee,对于这个领域(j2ee)我感觉就算是可以啦... 掌握一门语言的话还是很难的

2010年5月06日 15:23

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2010年5月06日 14:24

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其实，除了学习语言，学习其他的都一样，要怎样最快速的掌握？有学习的压力呗。没有压力的地球，物体都会飘起来；没有压力的环境，人心就会浮燥起来。也许对很多人来说是一则轶闻，可是回过头来想想，当你坐在布满机关枪的房间里限时背单词，时间到就扫射，如果还没有背完离开就必然完蛋，那么谁还敢拿自己的命开玩笑?同样道理，谁敢拿自己的未来开玩笑？

2010年5月06日 13:10

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    我也是个半路出家的。现在工作快三年了。以前也是，看到什么语言就会学一学。现在倒是越来越觉得语言什么的并不是那么重要。
     公司本来就是为了赚钱的，使用什么技术无所谓了，精通也没那么重要，只要能按时写出有质量保证的代码就行了。就像我们公司，本来是一帮国外留学生创建的，技术各个都很牛逼，最后公司开不下去了，交由现任ceo管理了。现在公司就主要关注业务方面，技术什么的没那么重要。
     另一个应该是好的想法和创意，比如android开发，需要的就是创意，把创意用代码实现就行了，也不需要你太精通那些代码吧。